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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You always wear a tinfoil hat? Doctors, Bush administration.Quote:
Thanks to the incompetent Bush administration.
Yeah, anything to blame it on someone else...I'm sure the corrupt state and local government of NO had NOTHING to do with the levees being substandard or human nature of inner city gangs.
LOL, keep up the ridiculousness...it's good, you do a good job.
What really makes me sick is that there are people out there stealing, shooting at people, raping women, etc. What an evil person someone has to be to do such things at time like this.
It does seem like the relief efforts have been very, very poor. We can air drop supplies in Afghanistan and Iraq but not our own country? And they want to arrest people for stealing food and diapers? Sad.
It's too bad really. They tell everyone to evacuate but if your poor how can you afford a hotel? Or gas to get you there? Did we offer places to put these people up before it happened?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well after all, what's more important to this criminal administration, human life or oil?Quote:
Originally posted by Daniel LeClaire:
What really makes me sick is that there are people out there stealing, shooting at people, raping women, etc. What an evil person someone has to be to do such things at time like this.
It does seem like the relief efforts have been very, very poor. We can air drop supplies in Afghanistan and Iraq but not our own country? And they want to arrest people for stealing food and diapers? Sad.
It's too bad really. They tell everyone to evacuate but if your poor how can you afford a hotel? Or gas to get you there? Did we offer places to put these people up before it happened?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You always wear a tinfoil hat? Doctors, Bush administration.Quote:
Originally posted by benrand:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks to the incompetent Bush administration.
Yeah, anything to blame it on someone else...I'm sure the corrupt state and local government of NO had NOTHING to do with the levees being substandard or human nature of inner city gangs.
LOL, keep up the ridiculousness...it's good, you do a good job.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not blaming anything on someone else. I'm blaming the disaster in N.O. on the incompetent, imbecile Bush.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, yeah. Well, have fun. I get a kick out of your lunacy. You do a great job with it, keep going.Quote:
I'm not blaming anything on someone else. I'm blaming the disaster in N.O. on the incompetent, imbecile Bush.
LOL
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, yeah. Well, have fun. I get a kick out of your lunacy. You do a great job with it, keep going.Quote:
Originally posted by benrand:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm not blaming anything on someone else. I'm blaming the disaster in N.O. on the incompetent, imbecile Bush.
LOL</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was thinking the same thing about you. LOL.
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Greetings , Kold Monday here and i would just like to extend the maximum respect and love to anyone thats taken the time to read or post a reply here. Regardless of what one's opinion maybe on the subject of the timeliness on the extension of relief to the New Orleans area, i felt as a local that it would be perhaps helpful to provide a few details that may shed light on the subject. A few years ago our local newspaper the Times Picayune published a five piece article on the possible apocalyptic results of an even less powerful Hurricane passing over the city. All of what they outlined from the flood waters to the loss of life to the destruction of property to the displacement of those left behind for many reasons have come to pass. There has been local awareness for years as to what could happen and unfortunately slow movement to enact solutions. Im not assigning blame only presenting facts . Our beautiful city is in most places below sea level . This when flooded creates a logistical nightmare as far as movement .....in or out. Evacuees have less than four ways of leaving the city and in coming aid is faced with a monumental task of even entering the city. High flood waters, impassable streets lined with fallen trees and broken power lines, as well as debris everywhere insure this. The city 4 hours after the initial tropical storm winds were felt lost 3 of 4 television stations with only one radio station having the ability to relay information out {wwl 870} . So information admittedly was slow getting out as to the true , unique , destructive power of this particular storm . I dont think people knew then as a result that Kartrina was a storm that was dealing energy greater than had ever been seen. Our mayor couldnt even enact a mandatory evacuation order without special permission because of {in his own words} "the logistical impossibilties" of evacuating so many through so few road ways. I can tell you as an evacuee myself that to live in New Orleans and for that matter along the gulf coast is to live with the seasonal risk of experiencing destruction on a mass scale. In this case i feel these and other circumstances worked in concert to make a bad situation much worse. I dont believe there are many places in our country that are free from the possibility of natural disaster. I further think that the true measure of how this administration handles this situation will be calculated from the efforts that should be sustained over the many months ahead that it will take to rebuild.As the national media reports, i hoped to provide some facts from a local.Much love and much respect to all.
Thanks for shedding some light on the situation Kold Monday, all the best to you and your people in New Orleans
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 03, 2005 08:58 AM: Message edited by: S.P ]</font>
I am placing blame, directly on Bush and his corrupt, incompetent administration. They were repeatedly asked for funding to fortify the levy system and in response funding was repeatedly cut. After all, what's more important to thata filthy bastard Bush, American lives or a phoney war for personal profit.
Here's an article that touches on the subject.
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"No one can say they didn't see it coming"
In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
Left: A New Orleans resident walks through floodwaters coated with a fine layer of oil in the flooded downtown area on Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005.
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By Sidney Blumenthal
Aug. 31, 2005 | Biblical in its uncontrolled rage and scope, Hurricane Katrina has left millions of Americans to scavenge for food and shelter and hundreds to thousands reportedly dead. With its main levee broken, the evacuated city of New Orleans has become part of the Gulf of Mexico. But the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature.
A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration ordered that the research not be undertaken. After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds for fixing New Orleans' levees, but it was too late.
The New Orleans Times-Picayune, which before the hurricane published a series on the federal funding problem, and whose presses are now underwater, reported online: "No one can say they didn't see it coming ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."
The Bush administration's policy of turning over wetlands to developers almost certainly also contributed to the heightened level of the storm surge. In 1990, a federal task force began restoring lost wetlands surrounding New Orleans. Every two miles of wetland between the Crescent City and the Gulf reduces a surge by half a foot. Bush had promised "no net loss" of wetlands, a policy launched by his father's administration and bolstered by President Clinton. But he reversed his approach in 2003, unleashing the developers. The Army Corps of Engineers and the Environmental Protection Agency then announced they could no longer protect wetlands unless they were somehow related to interstate commerce.
In response to this potential crisis, four leading environmental groups conducted a joint expert study, concluding in 2004 that without wetlands protection New Orleans could be devastated by an ordinary, much less a Category 4 or 5, hurricane. "There's no way to describe how mindless a policy that is when it comes to wetlands protection," said one of the report's authors. The chairman of the White House's Council on Environmental Quality dismissed the study as "highly questionable," and boasted, "Everybody loves what we're doing."
"My administration's climate change policy will be science based," President Bush declared in June 2001. But in 2002, when the Environmental Protection Agency submitted a study on global warming to the United Nations reflecting its expert research, Bush derided it as "a report put out by a bureaucracy," and excised the climate change assessment from the agency's annual report. The next year, when the EPA issued its first comprehensive "Report on the Environment," stating, "Climate change has global consequences for human health and the environment," the White House simply demanded removal of the line and all similar conclusions. At the G-8 meeting in Scotland this year, Bush successfully stymied any common action on global warming. Scientists, meanwhile, have continued to accumulate impressive data on the rising temperature of the oceans, which has produced more severe hurricanes.
In February 2004, 60 of the nation's leading scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates, warned in a statement, "Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policymaking": "Successful application of science has played a large part in the policies that have made the United States of America the world's most powerful nation and its citizens increasingly prosperous and healthy ... Indeed, this principle has long been adhered to by presidents and administrations of both parties in forming and implementing policies. The administration of George W. Bush has, however, disregarded this principle ... The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease." Bush completely ignored this statement.
In the two weeks preceding the storm in the Gulf, the trumping of science by ideology and expertise by special interests accelerated. The Federal Drug Administration announced that it was postponing sale of the morning-after contraceptive pill, despite overwhelming scientific evidence of its safety and its approval by the FDA's scientific advisory board. The United Nations special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa accused the Bush administration of responsibility for a condom shortage in Uganda -- the result of the administration's evangelical Christian agenda of "abstinence." When the chief of the Bureau of Justice Statistics in the Justice Department was ordered by the White House to delete its study that African-Americans and other minorities are subject to racial profiling in police traffic stops and he refused to buckle under, he was forced out of his job. When the Army Corps of Engineers' chief contracting oversight analyst objected to a $7 billion no-bid contract awarded for work in Iraq to Halliburton (the firm at which Vice President Cheney was formerly CEO), she was demoted despite her superior professional ratings. At the National Park Service, a former Cheney aide, a political appointee lacking professional background, drew up a plan to overturn past environmental practices and prohibit any mention of evolution while allowing sale of religious materials through the Park Service.
On the day the levees burst in New Orleans, Bush delivered a speech in California comparing the Iraq war to World War II and himself to Franklin D. Roosevelt: "And he knew that the best way to bring peace and stability to the region was by bringing freedom to Japan." Bush had boarded his very own "Streetcar Named Desire."
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 03, 2005 09:15 AM: Message edited by: Henry II ]</font>
Unbelievable. This nation is being led by evil. All in the pursuit of money and personal gain at the expense of others.